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Millennials & Marriage – Kiyomi and Joel – SC 178

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Wondering what you can learn from a millennial couple? Turns out it’s quite a bit!

Kiyomi and Joel are a mixed-race millennial couple that discovers how much their culture plays into their relationship. These two high school sweethearts grew up together and their system for growing together as they mature (as we all do) is inspiring.

Think where you come from isn’t a big part of your love life? Uncertain a couple so young can offer profound wisdom? Prepare to be surprised!

Here are a few of the highlights:

 

SHOWNOTES

  • Kiyomi & Joel’s high school love story [9:00]
  • What is Relationship OCD? [12:00]
  • Joel’s secret for consistent happiness [17:00]
  • Couple discovers being mixed race affects them [21:00]
  • Kiyomi & Joel’s conflict management method [29:00]
  • What’s the secret to balancing work and relationship life? [35:00]
  • Jayson’s advice when planning a wedding [43:00]

 

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GUEST BIO

We met back in 2007 at a high school dance in Pennsylvania. A good friend had introduced us to each other and we immediately had a connection. We have been together for 10 years now, and have taken a break for maybe a couple months when Joel went to Spain. We have gone through a lot together – me having intense anxiety/OCD tendencies, my father and family members passing, moving together from Pennsylvania to Boulder and other situations that have brought made us extremely close. We got engaged last November and are currently planning our wedding.
I would say our relationship is the best it has ever been and a big part of it being so good is our willingness to constantly be better as human being. Joel has come from a very conscious family and has had a relatively good childhood with parents that were very loving and caring. I came from a bit of a rocky childhood, where my parents were caring but their relationship was very broken due to my father being an alcoholic. I say this because Joel has really taught me what a loving relationship looks like, and at times, I had wanted to run away due to my own fears and doubts that had been mirrored from my parents.
Joel and I are both entrepreneurs. He runs a marketing business here in Boulder and I am currently a yoga therapist/coach. I love working with people on spreading awareness on conscious relationships and I also love working with people who have anxiety. I have YouTube channel which have been going well and am wanting to create an online community off of my YouTube channel as well. I am currently going through an exam to become registered psychotherapist here in Boulder so I can further work with more people.
Struggles: Joel really likes to work a lot (I would say that he used to be a workaholic, although wouldn’t really admit it) and that has put a strain on our relationship many, many times. We have had many discussions where I didn’t feel he was prioritizing our relationship and where he would just be working 12+ hours a day. Sometimes we would do activities together but I never felt he was fully present. This has been a bit of an issue in our relationship, sometimes I feel that he would rather work than be present. Even when we are on a vacation, he seems to want to be working.
No kids, we are not married and we have one hound/pointer mix named Kai 🙂

 

How A Couple Recovered From Cheating – Leahnora & Noah – SC 177

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Couples that survive the toughest relationship challenges are so impressive! Leahnora and Noah are one of those couples. Cheating nearly tore them apart but they made commitments to change themselves and now they’re stronger than ever before.

What did they do? How do they handle the baggage of their past?

Jayson explores the tough questions here. Also, Leahnora and Noah are still working through some common issues around sexuality and conflict and they share vulnerably about this as Jayson gives some relationship coaching.

Here are a few of the highlights:

SHOWNOTES

      • How did Noah handle the cheating? [9:00]
      • Leahnora & Noah’s personal growth paths [15:00]
      • Defensiveness isn’t always bad [25:00]
      • Their open relationship experience [29:00]
      • Noah & Leahnora’s fighting style [35:00]
      • Trusting love’s message no matter the cost [40:00]
      • Jayson addresses their sexuality struggles [44:00]
      • When you’re both triggered [54:00]
      • Don’t respond with “That wasn’t my intent” [60:00]

If you would like to connect with Leahnora and/or Noah, they can be contacted at [email protected] and [email protected].

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GUEST BIO

Noah and Leahnora have been together for over 5 years, and got married summer 2017. Noah is 35 years and Leahnora is 34. They have two dogs but no kids (this is something they are excited about for the future). They went to high school together in San Diego, CA and now reside in Oakland, California. Noah works a real estate agent and Leahnora works for the California Department of Transportation as an environmental planner. They are both passionate about philosophy and the interconnection of humans, and navigating their way through the human condition. They have vowed to use their marriage as a container for a path to personal and couple awakening.

Leahnora and Noah’s struggles began early in their relationship. Leahnora was dating other guys while Noah was coming out of a spiritual quest in India. At the time, they couldn’t have been more opposite. Their first 3 years together were HELL. Leahnora was cheating and keeping secrets, and Noah was in his own bubble and stubbornly clinging to his self-righteous worldviews. Through years of hard work we were finally able to get on the same page and since Noah proposed, things have been wonderful.

Leahnora and Noah’s main issue is currently around sex. Noah wants more, and Leahnora could care less. About once a week, they get into the same argument. Noah thinks Leahnora doesn’t want sex because of her past unresolved trauma, and Leahnora is annoyed and frustrated that Noah is not truly understanding to give her the space to explore sexuality, in her own way. They both feel trapped. Leahnora is craving safety and Noah is craving sex.

They are looking for a way to find common ground, so that they both feel their needs getting adequately met.

 

 

How Some Men Show Their Love To A Woman

The most essential human need (after the basic survival needs) is to be loved – to feel loved and accepted as we are. So many people go on for years wanting love and not knowing how to get it or advocate for it. They end up feeling perpetually frustrated, unloved, and unfulfilled. There is another way…

Do you actually know what you need from your partner to feel loved?

Do you speak up and ask for it?

Or do you keep hoping your partner will somehow figure it out or change or express love like you do?

Don’t do this!

You will only frustrate more and create tension when what you really want is connection.

Instead, be proactive. Learn. Explore. Inquire. And share.

When it comes to feeling loved you might be speaking different languages.

Did you watch the short video? Are you this man? Do you show love this way?

Or, is this your man? If so, he’s probably showing his love in the way that he learned through his conditioning and upbringing. We all do this. We make choices based on our values and preferences largely influenced by the way we were raised. 

And when you partner with someone, you join your values with theirs. This is where things can get tricky (and sticky).

One of you values work, while the other values connection. One of you expresses love by doing things and the other through touch and conversation. You’re speaking different languages! Simple right?

But painful when you forget this.

This inability to communicate in each other’s values causes you to feel missed, misunderstood, uncared for, and unloved. And if you cannot find a way to learn each other’s values you will remain caught in a struggle.

So what can you do? Acknowledge and advocate.

Take off your blinders of blame, resentment, or judgment and start to see how your partner shows his love. It may be different from your way. Be curious. Get to know what matters to your guy and what love looks like in his language. See if you can acknowledge him and understand what he cares about and how that translates into his expression of love – for you.

At the same time get clear about what works for you. Own it. Communicate that to your partner to educate him about your way and your needs. If you want more emotional connection from him, teach him about why that matters to you and celebrate him when he’s offering it.

This may feel incredibly uncomfortable. Growth often is.

Be willing to get vulnerable. Be willing to speak up for what works for you. Let yourself be seen and known in this way.

Remember that in a mutual relationship, both of you are invested in learning how to love each other as best as you can. This not only strengthens the relationship, it creates the kind of safety where feelings of being accepted and loved can blossom.

As you get to know each other’s values and language, the conversation and relationship can deepen. And you can actually feel loved in a way that speaks to you!

Still not sure what to do? Join The Relationship School® to learn how to deal with your differences.

Should I Stay Or Should I Go?

Have you ever been haunted by the question “Should I stay or should I go?” Plagued by it, back and forth, not finding the answer, not settling into any kind of certainty of your path?

This question used to haunt me. There it was, lurking in corners like a pesky varmint, scaring me, bugging me, staring into my face.

I tried my best to answer it until the confusion became unbearable, and I would numb out.

After all numbing out was more comfortable than facing this bloody question with no hope of finding an answer.

I was stuck in indecision. And I was slowly losing my ompf.

Indecision was like a slow inner bleed. It robbed me of my powers. It was the reason I reached for the next cookie, stuck on the couch. It was the slow inner drip that made me sleepy, lured me into hope for magical solutions.

If I could just be better, if I could show up more feminine, more attractive. Then… If he would just wake up and change, if he would just find a friend to help him improve this or that. Then…

For me, the pain only grew. Half-awake I saw myself slipping away into the grey.

I would catch my reflection accidentally. The tired sadness in my face startled me.

Until I found the guts to look myself straight in the eye:

How are you, self?

And I kept answering myself: 

I am confused. I don’t know what I should do. I feel such a longing for this relationship to blossom into full potential. I feel weak and exhausted. I judge myself for not getting it right. I am ashamed to fail yet again. I am afraid to hurt him. I am afraid to damage our kids. I am afraid to make the wrong decision.

It was like riding a great big powerful beast. A dragon. A dragon with a bleeding wound. Only for my dragon, this wound was not hidden or internal. She was writhing, fighting, in full knowledge of her bonds and wounds.

Instead of running away, I began visiting the dragon. I found community to help me sit with her and bring her my full presence. I learned that my dragon was powerful. I began to see that, ungoverned, all she knew was fight, flight, or freeze. I saw how she breathed fire when scared, and that her fire had an enormous heat. Enough to kill a man. I learned that she was innocent, for she had no reason. Swimming in her thick skull was a reptilian brain. 

I found guides who taught me how to keep steady and be with her, when she was sad and scared. I learned how to give her space to writhe and thrash when she was mad, and slowly I trained my ability to contain her to keep her from hurting others or herself. 

Over time, we forged a relationship, my inner beast and me.

If you watched Avatar – it was like I had connected my braid to her. The power and agony in her that once had scared me, had tried to throw me off, was now the power in me.

She trusted me. She was ready to hear my command. She and I were one.

My question was not “should I stay or should I go” anymore.

Right then I knew both paths – staying and going – to be painful and exhilarating. 

The fantasy of the right decision – it fell away. The dream of finding my soulmate in a new person I was yet to meet – I dropped it. The goal I had for my marriage changed from “I want happy” to a bigger vision (you can read Jayson’s take on the main goal of a high functioning marriage here). Knowing myself better I learned to differentiate the impulses of my dragon from the wiser council of my mind and heart. I saw how I had still a lot of work to do before I could fight well when my husband and I were in conflict. As long as our inner dragons were colliding, our hearts would not be open to each other.

Turning my attention directly and unflinchingly onto myself had proved to be the liberating move. Where the agony was, there lay my power to turn things around.

It was not important if I stayed or went. It was important to know that whatever choice I made was my own, active choice.  

The right path was the path I chose

It was the direction I set my eyes on. The call of my dragon-heart that led the way: 

I chose to stay in my marriage. Since then my marriage is the path I choose every single day when I wake up in the morning.

From that place, I have a bigger view. I see that I have not yet given it my all.  And I am always free to revisit my question.

Today I am in my marriage with all my heart. For my dragon and me, there is room for a lot of things. But not for falling asleep again for any length of time.

I have work to do.

I have love to live.

 

The 3 Things Everyone Wants & Needs In A Partnership

If you are a normal adult that values human partnership, you want a relationship that is:

  1. Safe
  2. Sexy
  3. Successful

In this post, I want to cover these 3 things you want and need in order to build and sustain a good, solid long-term relationship.

As you may have heard, a great relationship takes loads of work.

Anyone that thinks otherwise, either had a perfect childhood or just doesn’t understand how long-term partnership works.

In my experience the deeper you go with someone (which is where the fulfillment is), the more challenges you are sure to uncover.

This is why most couples prefer to stay on the surface in their relationship. These couples have no idea how deep you can go thus they wouldn’t know they are the ones blocking that kind of depth from happening.

Let me paint a picture…

Imagine a couple snorkeling around a beautiful shallow lagoon. Most couples don’t know there’s more to explore beyond the lagoon so they stay in shallow waters close to shore. It’s not that this couple doesn’t want to explore the vast ocean outside the perimeter of the lagoon, but they don’t even know there’s an entire ocean of possibility out there. Their understanding is limited to the lagoon.

But at a certain point, a smart couple will see how limited the lagoon is and they will want more. They will want to expand and explore a bigger landscape. In order to do so, they will need to build a seaworthy vessel. This metaphorical boat they build will be their homebase.  And because this homebase is the boat they will travel in, they will need it to be able to withstand the adversity they will soon encounter out in the vast sea.

This brings up the first thing you need and want in your partnership.

1- Safety.

Safety is paramount for a smart couple.

Why? Because with a foundation of safety, you can travel further and weather the storms you will encounter during your adventure.

Think about it.

If you are this couple traveling the vast ocean and you hit some threats along the way, you want those threats to be from the outside, not the inside of the partnership. You want to be scared of sharks, not scared of the other person in the boat, right?

But here’s the bad news.

Even if you found the safest person on the planet, your nervous system will still register threat with their tone of voice, the look on their face, or their body language. There’s no way around these “little threats” because we are all sensitive animals perceiving the most subtle of behaviors that fire our alarm bells. In other words, your hindbrain can’t perceive the difference between a shark and your partner.

So, the smart couple understands this bizarre phenomenon and both parties work to be kind, respectful and caring given that they will likely trigger each other in this way for the rest of their lives. You eventually learn that this isn’t a problem and it’s all one big opportunity to work with those little threats and use them to get stronger and more resilient, together.

Even after I became a psychotherapist, I never thought it was my job to make anyone feel safe, let alone my partner. However, after getting schooled in 10 years of marriage, and after finally learning about neuroscience from the founder of the polyvagal theory and countless others who study the human nervous system for a living, I see things a wee bit different now.

In my relationship with my wife, we work to help each other’s nervous system feel safe. Becuase when we support each other feeling safe, we are freed up to do other important tasks in life. 

We have no physical aggression, abuse, or negative vibes in our relationship. We live in a very high-functioning adult partnership. However, due to our past, on a neuroceptive level we can both behave in ways that trigger an unsafe feeling in the other person. It’s just the deal. 

If you want a deeper dive on the nervous system in relationships, we go much deeper on the nervous system, fear, and how to create a secure homebase in The Relationship School®. In fact the secure homebase is one of the 4 pillars of an Indestructible Partnership.

Finally please don’t confuse safe with apathetic. The couple that “plays it safe” is a complacent couple relegated to the lagoon. This is apathy at it’s finest. On the other hand, the couple that takes risks with a foundation of safety gets the goodies out in the vast ocean. 

So, couples that do well, are tracking the very subtle levels of safety in an ongoing way. So, of course, my wife and I feel safe on many levels after 10 years of partnership. But the animal in us can feel threatened easily because we are both sensitive people. So, we attend to our homebase and make sure it’s clean and clear as much as humanly possible. This way, we create the optimal environment for creative play, learning, taking on bigger challenges, and sexual exploration.

Once you build and understand safety, you get to progress to the next layer…

2- Sexy.

Once you have a secure homebase in place and actively monitor it, your relationship can deepen, widen, and grow because you are freed up to explore finer points of your intimacy, sexuality, and whatever else you want to co-create. So, a secure homebase is the foundation of a sexy or sexually active relationship.

When you both are free to be yourselves, it’s just plain sexy.

No one likes to be around someone who is incongruent, playing a role, or trying to be someone they are not. That’s unattractive and far from sexy.

Sure you can have amazing sex with someone with zero safety and many of us have had those experiences. However, those are short lived, one night stands, affairs, or six-month long relationships and don’t happen in the context of a long-term partnership. A long-term relationship triggers our deepest insecurities and brings up very old unprocessed material from our past, which is why sex can get complicated after many years of marriage. 

In fact, most couples drift in their sex life for one reason and one reason only. They no longer feel safe and instead are in a chronic state of low-grade fear as I explored in this blog post.

You have to remember that all of our emotional baggage, repressed childhood trauma, and anything else that is unconscious to us lives in the human body. And, we access our sexuality through the body. So, it’s in our best interest to attend to our somatic experience if we want a good sex life with our partner.  This means, exploring where our body does and doesn’t feel safe with our partner.

As we attend to our bodies this way, we can explore our sexuality, creativity, and we can grow and learn without having to be on guard all the time.

Can you override the safety issue?

Well, um, sort of…

Couples that schedule sex every Wednesday morning do this all the time. They are often stuck in a routine to get each other off, which can temporarily help with stress relief and a short-lived emotional connection. But to me, that is a moment of sexiness operating at about 50% capacity and sometimes it’s the best we can do. If that’s the case, no problem, but know you are operating at a lower capacity. And just don’t expect the “successful” part we’re going to talk about next…

3- Successful

A safe relationship leads to a sexy relationship which leads to a successful relationship. A good solid relationship is a successful one.

But how are we defining success? Success in this context means fulfillment. It means you are both fulfilled in your relationship. Fulfillment comes from having gone through adversity and challenge alone and together by continually finding your open heart in life’s challenges and tragedies. When you close down, you work to open back up. 

Sharing your crazy life journey with someone is why partnership can be so powerful.

But here’s the thing about success…Success is always earned and not given and it always comes at a price. 

For example, a new couple can call themselves successful but their relationship has yet to be put to the test. They haven’t had to earn their stripes yet, so success for them means something different than the couple who has weathered some big storms after many years. 

A new couple hasn’t really ‘earned the right’ over time. That would be like a freshman football player winning a game and thinking he is a champion. The senior, on the other hand, knows what it truly takes to win a national championship. And a pro player who’s been in the game for a decade or two, understands success at an even deeper level. Champion level athletes win because they train day in day out, year after year. They win because they work harder than the competition, not just one year, but year after year. 

So, to be truly successful in a partnership, you must both want it. You must both want a deeply fulfilling relationship and then work hard to keep that fulfillment a central focus. Notice how I didn’t say “happiness.” Couples that chase happiness usually end up miserable.

This can be hard for young couples who think a great relationship is a happy one or that it’s just given to them. It is also hard for the young couple who is juggling new children, finances, work, in-laws, sleep issues, and everything else coming your way (My wife and I were extremely challenged during the first few years of raising 2 kids, so I can relate here).

The successful young couple, in this case, understands that even with the crazy demands, they still need to make the relationship a priority otherwise their partnership will drift and they will get bored or get burned out over time.

The bottom line is that success = your fulfillment and your fulfillment is a result of the amount of intelligent effort you put into the relationship. It also means you support each other and you challenge each other to be your best and you approach each other in “safe” ways that your partner can learn and grow from.

Okay, now that we’ve covered the 3 consecutive elements that you need/want in a good solid-long-term relationship, the next question is:

Do you have all 3 elements that build off each other?

It’s likely you don’t have that or you wouldn’t have read this far. To be extra sure, download this one-page scorecard then fill it out together. If you are single, fill it out based on your last relationship.

And if it’s true that you don’t have the 3 S’s in your partnership, or you’re single and you’ve never experienced this over time, you’ll need to ask the next question:

If I don’t have a safe, sexy, successful partnership and I want that, what am I going to do about it?

If you think you can hope and pray for a good relationship and that will get you there, you’re up shit creek.

Instead, go through each of these 3 elements and be brutally honest with each other. If you are single, evaluate your last relationship.

Once you are honest enough to identify that you are not there yet and you don’t have a safe, sexy, and successful partnership, ask, “what is missing?” Identify the gap and “work” together to build a bridge.

Notice if you are wanting a sexy or successful relationship without addressing the subtle levels of safety that promote success. Don’t chase sex without first addressing safety. After many years, safety becomes foreplay. Two relaxed nervous systems are free to be wild animals, creative love-beasts, and are free to co-explore each other’s bodies in new ways.

Lastly, go get the education you never received. Learn how to Embrace Conflict here in Boulder. Take the 9-month class you never got in school and get educated on how romantic relationships actually work.

Report back. Share your struggles and victories in the Smart Couple FB group here.

 

photo credit: Talita Neres Flickr creative commons.

First Days At The Relationship School – Finding The Courage To Go

A year ago I found myself caught between two very strong forces: The pull towards The Relationship School® in Boulder, CO and the passion for our family life in my Swiss village. I was stressed and confused. These forces were tucking at me strongly, persistently.

Shoud I really go? Was it just midlife-crisis that had me jump into this adventure, or was there any wisdom in leaving my family for a week and flying over the Atlantic?

I chose to go. And I found a path that I have been following ever since with all my heart. Here is how one boy I never met gave me the courage to go:

Swiss mountains around me, packing list in my hand. My head insists I am going in the wrong direction: to the US. I have been looking forward to The Relationship School® in Boulder for months. Now my body stalls.

Just now my village home is paradise.

Only yesterday my kids had formed a circus with their friends. The arena was under Miriam’s linden tree, by the pony barn. The afternoon sun was shining through the branches. The children jumped and danced on a board balanced over an old tin bucket. My heart burst with gratitude and joy – the last thing I wanted to do was leave my little girl to go to the US.

There she was, swinging dangerously, smiling and throwing the first dried leaves into the air from her pocket. All-natural confetti.

It was only because I created my own hell in the midst of this paradise that I was now getting ready to leave for a seven-day-trip. As it turned out for me, awakening to this hell, led to finding Jayson Gaddis and his Smart Couple Podcast. Which was the beginning of a fundamental re-gardening process: very slowly I was turning the destitute industrial area of our marriage to match our idyllic surroundings of lush greenery, spaces maintained with love and abundant signs of community.

I dropped the packing list and used the last hour before my children would walk down from the village school to ride down to the lake, getting our groceries from the organic co-op.

As I was pedalling up the hill again I remembered an email from a German friend. He was housing a refugee boy from Syria: Maher. Maher’s mother was killed on their flight from war, and his father and siblings were scattered over Europe. My friend was asking for help to reunite Maher with his family. All it would take was some luck and a few thousand Euros to cover plane fares. This was my chance to bribe the universe and to quiet my fears about travelling without my family. I put my bike away and went straight to my laptop to make a donation.

Helping out this boy gave me the courage to face my own fears. It also helped me connect my travels with one of my highest values: being of service. Learning about relationship would serve world peace — it may sound far fetched, but it seemed clear as rain to me: I was travelling for myself, for my family, and for Maher.

Then I finally packed. One day and a 15+ hour plane journey later I joined just over 50 people at Boulder’s Integral Center for the first ever Relationship School Live Weekend. For about half of us this was also the kick-off to a nine-month journey, studying the Deep Psychology of Intimate Relationships in order to become well-practiced “love warriors”.

Jayson and his wife Ellen Boeder fed us neurophysiological knowledge and role-played common situations in the “full catastrophe” of family life. They modelled the attitude, timing and language that can turn a relational challenge into love. We repeated the moves in real-time exchanges and learnt how this felt in our own bodies. Over time, I could practically feel my relational muscles become stronger!

I was in a jet lag haze that seemed supportive of opening my heart through sheer exhaustion. Practicing with the other students meant checking in with myself, opening my heart and entering an intimate exchange.

Over and over I failed or succeeded to stay connected to myself, keep my heart open and stay in intimacy. This was taking it much further than countless hours spent on the meditation cushion, as essential as they are to me.

Whatever sense of awakened love I was feeling was directly put to the test of actual relating.

The day after the Live Weekend I found myself sitting in Trident Café, Boulder, with a massive soul hangover, clear mind and expansive heart, my relational muscles slightly sore.

Just as working out makes my body feel confident and alive, I was filled with new confidence to bring home to my family, my entire relational life. If this were to wear off, I was still left with a down-to-earth set of practical tools, a map and a compass.

I was intent on expanding paradise by tending to my marriage: to me it’s the most important thing in my small privileged life, and the best contribution I can think of to create a global garden in which my family and Maher can heal and thrive.

Packing that morning for my trip home, I checked email one last time. My German friend had sent a note: in the few days since my donation, the fund to bring Maher’s family together had grown to over 3500 Euros. People had teamed up to organize flea markets, offer legal counsel and sent money to make a difference for this boy. My heart softened as I realized how eager people are to do something practical to help relieve suffering in the world.

With the Rocky Mountains at my back and a thick Relationship School® manual in my bag, there was no doubt I was going in the right direction, my direction.

I was bringing back home a keen determination to live in integrity beyond my meditation cushion, a set of tools for everyday, heart-swelling memories and a small to medium sized “cowboy hat” for my kids to parade around our Swiss village.

And most importantly I was bringing myself back home.

 

(One last thing on Maher: It turned out to be a long and difficult process to get the visas for Maher’s father and siblings. In the end it took a whole year. Miraculously, just as I am posting this now I got an overjoyed email from his foster parents with a family picture: tearful laughing faces. . . . The day had finally come when Maher, his father and his siblings were reunited. Big out breath. Yes!!)